tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6719252574677567989.post842962123407089512..comments2024-03-18T07:11:29.068-04:00Comments on Frontloading HQ: Obama Back in the Win Column in South CarolinaJosh Putnamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06301836432446874997noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6719252574677567989.post-5269783284452379452008-01-27T18:58:00.000-05:002008-01-27T18:58:00.000-05:00Well researched, Rob. Thanks.I guess we can say t...Well researched, Rob. Thanks.<BR/><BR/>I guess we can say that it isn't a phenomenon that has regularly occurring during the modern era (much less US history).drhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01110427594222134441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6719252574677567989.post-17792763015646791402008-01-27T13:34:00.000-05:002008-01-27T13:34:00.000-05:00There are three examples of candidates for VP unde...There are three examples of candidates for VP under two Presidential candidates:<BR/><BR/>John C. Calhoun -- VP under J.Q. Adams (1825-1829) and under Andrew Jackson (1829-1832).<BR/><BR/>Adlai Stevenson (the father) -- VP under Grover Cleveland (1893-1897) and running mate of William Jennings Bryan in 1900.<BR/><BR/>Charles Fairbanks -- V.P. under Teddy Roosevelt (1905-1909) and candidate with Charles Evan Hughes in 1916.<BR/><BR/>There are some in the party that blame Edwards for failing to go after GWB in the 2004 campaign contributng to Kerry's defeat.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379192575044761972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6719252574677567989.post-78762982037024045222008-01-26T22:36:00.000-05:002008-01-26T22:36:00.000-05:00In the context of the hypothetical plan I laid out...In the context of the hypothetical plan I laid out for him, VP would be the goal (and if he was doing well amongst whites in the South may be seen as an asset in that capacity). But I agree, I just don't see him as motivated to repeat that 2004 trip. Has that even ever happened? Someone being on the ticket as VP under two different presidential nominees.<BR/><BR/>There have been a few VP-related things in the news this week. I need to get together a post on that topic.Josh Putnamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06301836432446874997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6719252574677567989.post-66202196270763830722008-01-26T22:09:00.000-05:002008-01-26T22:09:00.000-05:00I love the maps. I am going to permanently retire ...I love the maps. I am going to permanently retire my crayons. I also like the online sites better than the TV. Paul is right again as usual. I don't think Edwards wants to be VP but I think he would relish the position of Atourney General.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379192575044761972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6719252574677567989.post-78226933453805973712008-01-26T22:03:00.000-05:002008-01-26T22:03:00.000-05:00If Edwards wants to have an impact, he needs to ca...If Edwards wants to have an impact, he needs to camp out in those states where that alienation is possible between Clinton and African Americans. If he's not completely focused on Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee, Missouri and Oklahoma, then I don't know what he'll do (other than drop out). Sure that relegates him to being a regional candidate to some extent, but it wouldn't be a bad thing to say that you could win white votes in the South. Like for instance if you wanted to be considered for VP.Josh Putnamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06301836432446874997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6719252574677567989.post-67371117521659123802008-01-26T21:58:00.000-05:002008-01-26T21:58:00.000-05:00Snide? That wasn't meant to be snide. I'm a card-...Snide? That wasn't meant to be snide. I'm a card-carrying member of the map coloring camp. My stories are just limited in that department. Computers came along and ruined meaningful map coloring for my generation. I just don't have the experience. And I probably shouldn't have opened up that can of worms. But I am a sucker for a good map. I will say that.<BR/><BR/>The Clintons' plan definitely backfired. They had to sense that this was a possibility though (as good as they are). That attempting to downplay the state and having Bill campaign heavily there (and that became a major story) were actions that ran counter to each other. <BR/><BR/>I'm still really interested to see what happens with Florida and the Democrats. If Michigan repeats itself how will the media play it? It is just a really interesting dynamic.Josh Putnamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06301836432446874997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6719252574677567989.post-90173161066292877462008-01-26T21:53:00.000-05:002008-01-26T21:53:00.000-05:00Good questions. We should get some answers tomorro...Good questions. We should get some answers tomorrow. Hillary and Bill need to be careful at writing off SC as many southern states vote Feb. 5 and there are some African-American women who vote in New Jersey and California. I don't think further alienation of the African-American community is very smart. The California debates on Wednesday and Thursday nights should prove interesting. Those maps are neat. Looks like Edwards won in Oconee County (where he was born) and Clinton won in Horry County (where the debate was held. The rest of the state looks like it is going for Obama.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379192575044761972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6719252574677567989.post-82483243549920076992008-01-26T20:52:00.000-05:002008-01-26T20:52:00.000-05:00And who was that snide comment about phone books a...And who was that snide comment about phone books aimed at? It looks like the Clintons ploy did not work in SC. It will be interesting to see if Obama gets a bump in Florida.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379192575044761972noreply@blogger.com